Stoke and Copeland – some next day analysis


Three analyses from Labour left activists

Tom Harris (Lewisham Momentum activist)

1. While it’s very good Labour won in Stoke, that doesn’t make up for the very bad performance in Copeland
2. The Labour leadership is not doing well, even as measured against the goals of the socialist left (i.e., my goals) e.g. party democratisation, clear arguments for socialism to the public, building of a renewed workers’ movement.
3. Jeremy Corbyn is not a good communicator, and I strongly suspect that his closest advisors are just idiots.
4. The decline in Labour support in places like Stoke and Copeland has been going on for a very long time, including through most of the New Labour years, and cannot by any means be blamed just on Corbynism.
5. Loads of the problems currently faced by the Labour Party would also be faced by a Labour Party lead by the Blairites.
6. Loads of the problems currently faced by the Labour Party would be faced by any kind of left-led Labour Party
7. What is criminal is the way in which the Labour Left, and especially Momentum, has singularly failed to tackled these easily anticipated problems.
8. In the event that Corbyn is deposed, the very least we could have hoped for in the mean time was a rejuvenated, democratic movement on the Labour Left, and a radically democratised Labour Party machine.
9. Momentum has failed to do either of those things, and quite deliberately. Because it put the idiotic conception of a passive, tightly-controlled Corbyn fan club that could be dumbly dragooned into supporting whatever shoddy compromise or doomed piece of adventurism the leadership office wanted ahead of those tasks. Sorting out the shitness of Labour will involve sorting out the shitness of the Labour Left, including Momentum.
10. If you feel disillusioned, dropping out is not an option, or at least not an option I can respect. Politics is about moral duty to your fellow human beings and specifically to the emancipation of your class, not your personal feelings. In the grand scale of things, no one cares about your hurt feelings.
11. If the conclusion you’re drawing from the Labour Left’s current debacle is that you should move towards the ‘moderate’ Labour Right, you have learned nothing. The task of a socialist is to create a better, healthier socialist left, not to abandon the socialist left in favour of a liberal capitalism that you (wrongly) think will be more electorally succesful.

I will continue to back Corbyn for Labour leader, as the leader of the Labour left. But we need to get our act together.

P.S. the equivocation about immigration and European integration is as shameful as it is disappointing.

Ben Sellers (Durham Labour Left activist, Red Labour)

Just a few weeks ago there was a real expectation that Labour would lose both Stoke and Copeland. It’s taken a lot of hard work by those on the ground, but in one of those by-elections, we’ve walked away with a decisive victory. People will say that Nuttall was a gift, and in many ways he was – but that open goal may not have been scored by a smaller, less grassroots oriented Labour Party (both online and offline). It seems that we are capable of seeing off UKIP, if we work collectively.

Copeland is an altogether different constituency with very specific issues. Nuclear jobs are a factor, but so is a political culture which has become insular, not recently but over many years. So discussions about alternatives have been discouraged to the point that they are taboo. That culture has been fostered by the New Labour hierarchy and the previous MP, Jamie Reed. Perhaps more understandably, it’s been promoted by the major trade unions, who see their sole role as protecting jobs. To shift any of that debate in a few weeks was going to be an almost impossible task, but again, Labour members on the ground did at least manage to get people talking about the NHS, transport and the Tories’ decimation of our public services. I doubt if many cast their votes for the Tory Party with much enthusiasm.

So now, our opponents will focus on Copeland and try to nail Jeremy Corbyn for it. The media aren’t interested in context. Not when they scent blood. The right of the party aren’t interested in understanding the longer term causes of our decline, because for them, this has become a tabloid-like game to bury Jeremy Corbyn, and with him the project of the left in the party.

So we’ll have to remind them where this started. Not with Corbyn, but with a New Labour project that was uninterested in working class communities outside of a south east corner: look at Scotland, look at decreasing majorities across the north; look at the South West even. The fragility of Labour’s base began years ago, when a party lost touch with its own grassroots and the trade unions. New Labour caused a crisis, which we were never going to recover from quickly, because we’ve had a decade of abandoning our people, our heartlands and people don’t forget easily.

On top of that, there has been a targeted and systematic campaign by those Blairite MPs who still hold huge sway in Parliament, and whose only purpose has been to create chaos for the leadership. That has undoubtedly dented our support, because people see a divided party and a leadership unable to control and pacify the PLP. Not everyone understands the machinations or the underlying causes of the chaos, so often they will blame Corbyn. But the reality is, a large chunk of the blame lies with those who still won’t accept that the party has changed.

None of this is to say that we can’t improve, as a project: in terms of communication, organisation and leadership we’re on a massive learning curve. It’s frustrating that we’re not learning quick enough, because that is leaving us vulnerable. We need to be bolder, less frightened and more open to the enormous grassroots that brought us here. That’s difficult when everyone around you is telling you that it’s failing, declining, in crisis. But they – the majority of the media, the right of the party and the political establishment – were always going to say that.

Rida Vaquas (Oxford Uni Labour Club secretary, Young Labour NC, Momentum NCG, and Clarion editor)

It’s clear that the decline in the Labour vote share preceded Corbyn, but we can’t use that to make light of the fact that a sharp decline happened yesterday. It’s clear that there were internal obstacles, e.g. the selection of a candidate for Copeland who was hardly the most inspiring or memorable on offer, but we can’t play down the fact that the central messaging simply wasn’t convincing or didn’t speak to people’s concerns. Ultimately we are over-reliant on the NHS as a thing to campaign on (and to some extent rightly so), but we need to be able to speak to people about how we’re going to make the economy fairer for them, especially for those working in the private sector. Labour wants a society, at a minimum, in which everyone can pay their rent and their bills without worrying or making significant sacrifices and we want a society where people have a much greater degree of control over their lives and their society than they do now. But we don’t do enough to communicate this, and we don’t communicate this convincingly.

This wasn’t a total defeat (remember a few weeks ago where several commentators were predicting that we’d lose both Copeland and Stoke), and grassroots energy and hard work did help turn it round. We should also resist attempts to pin all the blame on Corbyn which doesn’t acknowledge the deep-rooted problems the Labour Party has in these communities. But let’s not gloss over the extent of the challenge we face, because ultimately it’s only through acknowledging these bitter realities that we can seriously work out ways to overcome them.

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  1. The myth is that there has been a shift to the left in the Labour Party, and that this has cost us dear in the by-elections.

    But wherein lies this shift to the Left exactly? Economic policy? Certainly not! We do not have an economic policy: just soundbites with a fair proportion of Treasury orthodoxy therein, such as the neoliberal claptrap emphasising tariff-free access to the single market. Defence policy? Not really, the vote to retain Trident has been taken. Foreign policy? Again, there’s not much difference there. Granted we are supposedly anti-austerity on public services – but without an economic policy that’s just so much hot air.

    We have to look beyond the superficiality that because we have Corbyn-McDonnell-Abbott it therefore follows that Labour is Left. We just aren’t. Instead we have witnessed a continuous headlong retreat to appease the right wing of the PLP, hence the lack of policies. Momentum was castrated precisely in order to facilitate that appeasement.

    The consequence is that Labour has a real message-emptiness problem – like Hillary Clinton’s Democrats. Without an inspiring, dynamic and radical economic programme there is no reason why people should vote for us and we are likely to suffer a like fate.

  2. People in my view see things through the spectrum of the media, the message they purvey is that if you are poor it’s your fault, if you can’t afford private provision you don’t deserve it, the NHS is not being privatised, that the NHS isn’t fit for purpose, that the private sector is best placed to provide public services.

    Everything above needs to be challenged, it’s the private sector that is failing, low pay, reduced working conditions, and working longer hours.

    People are sleepwalking into oblivion because they simply do not know there is an alternative.

    A simple way to wake them up is to park Britain’s decline on the Neo-Liberal Tories.

    The government creates all the money we have in circulation, so when they say the country is broke, they are actually lying to you.

    That simple message will not be understood because people think that the government has to raise taxes in order to provide public services, Whereas in fact the government is not a household that has to earn money before it can spend, the government just creates it out of thin air.

    Once people understand that, they will understand that Neo-Liberal politicians of all colours have been lying to them.

    Neo-Liberalism is transferring wealth and power upwards and handing over public assets into the private sector. Thatcher promised to roll back the state and end socialism that process has never stopped and the reason the economy has stagnated. Which is why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, In the USA the middle classes have become worse off as a result.

    If people do not understand that all money is created out of thin air, just ask them how we found £375 billion to bail out the corrupt banks, When the whole world banking system had crashed.

    This little video explains how money is created, and the USA, Japan, Australia, and Canada have the same money system that we do.

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